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Note that academic ranks are different in different countries", - in Russia I was awarded a prestigious governmental rank of a "Senior Research Scientist" (1980), and in 1983 I received the highest governmental scientific degree of a "Doctor of Biological Sciences", which is at least equal to a "Distinguished Professor" degree in the United States. I wanted to upload an image of it into the Mining section of the entry on Tennant Creek, but the upload requires I have copyright on the document. This is for the Red Orchestra article, persecution section, attendant to the discovery of the groups. The legislative history, which I also published, begins in 1929 with the introduction of the legislation in Congress. The Commission was extended for five-year periods in 1957 and 1962, and in 1967 it was extended a third time and enlarged to five members. Clearwater also published two books as guides to the collection, “Index to the Decisions of the Indian Claims Commission,” and “Index to the Expert Reports before the Indian Claims Commission,” Norman A. It's not the number of references included in an article, nor is it the number of wikilinks included in an article, as those are both given as separate numbers. I posted a paid editor disclosure on his talk page on 15 April , but the alert is still posted at the top of his page.

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May 13

Submission of a multi-section text for creation the Wikipedia article about a notable physician/researcher/academic

Please advice me (and my aid) on the correct way to proceed with the creation of my Wikipedia article, a prepared draft of which includes sections: Introductory, Early life and education, Career/Research (four parts following by the References list), Career recognitions, Marriage and family, and Legacy. Do I need first to settle with the Wikipedia Administration on the Criteria of Notability for Academics, of which I believe I meet at least three conditions? Or might the matter of Notability be settled after the whole draft of my Wikipedia article will be submitted to your attention? Sincerely, Ilya B. Tsyrlov, M.D., Ph.D., D.Biol.Sci.(Biochemistry)DrIlyaTsyrlov (talk) 00:32, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

If I understand you correctly, would you like to write an article about yourself? If you want to know whether you (or the person you want to write about) meet the relevance criteria, you can look here: Wikipedia:Notability (academics). But you also have to consider that if you write the article about yourself there is a conflict of interest, for more see here: Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. If you have read the pages and there are no questions left, you can start writing your first article with the Article wizard. --Killarnee (T12) 01:15, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
@DrIlyaTsyrlov: I forgot the ping. --Killarnee (T12) 01:24, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
@DrIlyaTsyrlov: It's extremely difficult to write an autobiography that complies with all Wikipedia's policies, particularly our requirement that articles are verifiable and neutral. Please read the advice on this page before deciding whether you wish to proceed. – Teratix 01:58, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

User:Killarnee|Killarnee]] (T12) 01:24, 13 May 2020 (UTC) Dear Killarnee, you accidentally misunderstood me, as I wouldn’t like to write an article about myself, and don’t have any intention to write an autobiography (replying to such a suggestion from Teratix ₵ 01:58, 13 May 2020). Having an almost 50-year medical research career in academic, governmental and private settings, initially in Russia and since 1991 in the United States, I’m an author/co-author of 4 books, and more than 250 articles published in peer-reviewed journals, in the fields of biochemistry, drug metabolism, toxicology, occupational medicine, geriatrics, virology, and cancer. That all make me a “notable person”, in terms of strict Wikipedia Criteria of Notability for Academics. Thus I meet at least three conditions required by the Wikipedia Guidelines, such as 1) in 2015 I was elected Emeritus member (fellow) of one of the most prestigious international scientific societies, the ISSX; 2) since the 1980s, I’ve given several distinguished, keynote and invited lectures at meetings of national or international scholarly societies and at 21 universities worldwide; 3) in accordance with what Wikipedia Guidelines reads, "...for information about academic ranks and their meanings. Note that academic ranks are different in different countries", - in Russia I was awarded a prestigious governmental rank of a "Senior Research Scientist" (1980), and in 1983 I received the highest governmental scientific degree of a "Doctor of Biological Sciences", which is at least equal to a "Distinguished Professor" degree in the United States. It’s technically hard to justify my other credentials in this laconic e-mail format, inasmuch as all verifiable data already put in the full-scale draft of the Wikipedia page. The draft was rather edited by me but prepared by my several decade-long colleagues from the Russian National Academy of Sciences (who helped with gathering publications of the 1970s-1980s), the National Cancer Institute (National Institutes of Health, USA), the Mount Sinai School of Medicine, USA, and the Xenotox, Inc, USA. Dear Killarnee, as you and colleagues at the Wikipedia editorial team, would see after uploading the draft, it has just a few lines about my early life and education years, while the rest content is about medico-biological research data and their major clinical and epidemiological implications. So, my initial question on how to proceed with the above draft still exists. Thank you for your cooperation in this matter. Sincerely, Dr. Ilya B. TsyrlovDrIlyaTsyrlov (talk) 19:47, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Family of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge

Ref number 7 is wrong - I am sorry - please don't get annoyed and it is hard to fix it up - even if I knew for sure what I was doing. please fix it up if you can. Thanks (talk) 01:43, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Fixed. Next time, just include one ISBN (preferably the 13-digit one). – Teratix 01:51, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Hi, I just solved the problem. As Teratix has already written, there can only be one ISBN at a time. --Killarnee (T12) 01:53, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Would you like to remind us how often you have been told that only one ISBN can be included in one reference? And even if you don't remember from last time, could you suggest any possible improvement to the help page link to Help:CS1 errors#bad isbn to make the statement "Only one ISBN is allowed in this field ..." any clearer to you? --David Biddulph (talk) 07:37, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

It says that I have 1 page on my watchlist. Where do I see this page?

https://imgur.com/a/FWEYEyL — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moyprofile (talk • contribs) 02:22, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

@Moyprofile: At the top right of any Wikipedia page, there is a link that says "Watchlist", which will take you to Special:Watchlist. GoingBatty (talk) 03:26, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
that doesn't answer my questionMoyprofile (talk) 04:10, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
@Moyprofile: When you click on that link it will show you the most recent edit(s) to pages in your watchlist. If nothing is displayed then there may have been no recent edits. Click on the button towards the top right of the watchlist page which says 'edit your list of watched pages'. This will list out the pages on the watchlist. Eagleash (talk) 04:34, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Change picture in article

The page for the artist Daniël Mijtens has an image of one of his portraits, of King Charles I of England. There is a much better image available to use in png and jpg formats here [1] and here [2]. How do I change the image on the Wikipedia article instead of the inferior image of the same artwork that is currently used? Boleslaw (talk) 02:38, 13 May 2020 (UTC)


  1. ^ commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Charles_I_by_Daniel_Mytens.png
  2. ^ commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Charles_I_by_Daniel_Mytens.jpg
@Boleslaw: You would change:
[[File:Charles I by Mytens, 1631, National Portrait Gallery, London.JPG|thumb|Charles I by Mytens, 1631.<br>[[National Portrait Gallery, London]].]]
[[File:Charles I by Daniel Mytens.png|thumb|Charles I by Mytens, 1631.<br>[[National Portrait Gallery, London]].]]
GoingBatty (talk) 03:32, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

How to upload image file of historical document?

I possess an historical document i.e. a Miner's Right for gold mining in Tennants Creek from 1935. I wanted to upload an image of it into the Mining section of the entry on Tennant Creek, but the upload requires I have copyright on the document. I don't think I do, so how should I proceed? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Safronicus (talkcontribs) 02:53, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

@Safronicus: I hope this policy will help you: Wikipedia:Image use policy GoingBatty (talk) 03:35, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Lupton family

I am sorry to bother you - this is a difficult problem.

There is a book I'd like to add in the "Further reading" section on the above page. This is the book as it appears on commons


It is called "The Next Generation: A Sequel to The Lupton Family in Leeds by C.A. Lupton (1965)", written in 2001 by Francis Lupton (Dr Francis G. H. Lupton OBE 1921–2006)

Can it be added a "resources" or "further reading" - I have seen a copy in the library of The Grammar School Leeds.

Thanks for any help and p-lease fix if you can - you are all cleverer than me (talk) 05:04, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

@ Hi! This book is mentioned in this article as a family memoir, but I can't find any identifying information like ISBN or at least a publisher. You may want to ask frequent editors of this article on the relevant Talk page, since it may require a deeper understanding of specific sources such as locally-known written works. Juliette Han (talk) 07:39, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
It seems to be this book. Perhaps Srbernadette, the uploader of the commons image, can help. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 08:31, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
yes, please add this book - above- as a source, I cannot do it. (talk) 08:57, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
@ Done as per WorldCat. Juliette Han (talk) 10:18, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Amendment to Template:Trans-Australian Railway

I would like to add:

|image_upright =

to the Template:Trans-Australian Railway template in order to optimise the size of the lead image. However, I lack the knowledge to do so. Can anyone help? Cheers! SCHolar44 (talk) 12:35, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

@SCHolar44: Hi! I automatically adjusted the size of the image to the infobox. Is that what you meant by 'to optimize'? Please let me know. Juliette Han (talk) 14:01, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
In case you are curious how this parameter should be inserted in this template:
|box_width = 22em
|image = Map of Australia's east-west rail corridor.png
|image_upright = 1.25
|image_size = 
Values are optimal. Template would look the same. Juliette Han (talk) 14:58, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
@Juliette Han: Perfect! Thank you! I've noted the solution for future use too. SCHolar44 (talk) 23:30, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

I can't find a page that I've been to in the past

There used to be a wiki article about superpowers. It had an entire chart of different kinds of superpowers, mental, energy, physical. With links to examples from Heroes, Avatar the Last Airbender, DC, etc. Your superhero article is now much less helpful than that old page. Was it deleted or edited or can I just not find it? Or is this a Mandela effect situation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:08, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Are you certain that it wasn't someplace else, like TV Tropes? It sounds more like their kind of content. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:26, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
It sounds like List of superhuman features and abilities in fiction which was deleted in 2018. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:19, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
The deletion discussion is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of superhuman features and abilities in fiction. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 05:36, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Facts that are contrary to date

Hi Folks, I have two sets of books that report a fact on two different times, explicitly 3.58am on 26 August 1941 or 3.58am on 26 June 1941. This is for the Red Orchestra article, persecution section, attendant to the discovery of the groups. What do you do when the facts are contrary? Both sets of an documents are excellent references, but contradict each other. Thanks. scope_creepTalk 16:11, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

@Scope creep: Report the difference in the article: "at 3.58am on 26 June 1941 or 26 August 1941 (sources differ)" ... -Arch dude (talk) 17:39, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
@Scope creep: Any other approach constitutes original research, unless there is another equally good source that provides strong evidence that one is more likely to be correct. If there is such a tie-breaker, then my vote is to put the more likely date in the article text and reference all three sources in an explanatory footnote. This is still getting close to original research, so use your editorial judgement, and/or discuss on the talk page. -Arch dude (talk) 17:44, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks @Arch dude:, that is ideal. I've posted a message to the DE wikipedia, to see if they can come back with some clarification but it will probably will take some weeks. Yip, to second message, that is ideal. I know that was some new research completed in 2010, and certainly some of the references are before 2009, so it could be that, but I'm not sure. I can always update it, several years up the road, if it becomes clearer. scope_creepTalk 17:56, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Adding every page in a category to my watchlist

There are a few categories for which I'd like to add every page to my watchlist. Is there a faster way to do this than opening up each article one by one? CJK09 (talk) 18:38, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

@CJK09: No, there is no way to watch them all other than by adding them one-by-one. RudolfRed (talk) 20:09, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

You can make your own watch lists. Special:RecentChangesLinked....like

--Moxy 🍁 21:51, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for that tip, Moxy. I was not aware of the technique, but I already see how I can use it. Eddie Blick (talk) 00:53, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia page updates

Hi Team Could you please let me know who do we submit page updates to? It is a bit unclear as it appears some pages do not get updated automatically even if there are available news articles published/citations on the internet. Any help on this is much appreciated. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arantxa147 (talkcontribs) 19:50, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

@Arantxa147: If you have a WP:COI, you can post an edit request on the talk page. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~.) TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 19:53, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
@Arantxa147: Articles are not updated automatically, and no articles have editors assigned to them. Any editor can edit any article. New information is added by editors such as yourself who think the information will improve the article. Each editor is expected to follow Wikipedia's guidelines and policies. Out of this chaos, over the course of the last 20 years, the world's largest and best encyclopedia has emerged. -Arch dude (talk) 20:01, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

photo update

How do I update an old photo? I don't own the previous photo, however, I'm trying to update the photo that appears on the page with a new photo? how do I do that? I've tried Wikimedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:37, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Do you own the copyright to the new photo, and are you happy to release it under a Creative Commons licence? If "yes" to both, then upload it to Wikimedia Commons. The place to ask about that is there, not here. -- Hoary (talk) 22:04, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Is there a way to search Wikipedia for reference to a particular book?

Months ago, I wanted to verify whether a claim was actually supported by a cited source and put in a request for the book cited at my local library. It is finally available but I have forgotten what article contained the claim. Is there a mechanism for searching for the article, using the book's title or ISBN as the search key? Peter Brown (talk) 21:24, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Try using Google and type in "site:en.wikipedia.org <book title/ISBN>". I tested it out with an ISBN in a given article and it worked for me. bibliomaniac15 21:30, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

You can search words or phrases in Wikipedia by doing so directly at the search special page Special:Search......like.... Theory of Justice. Harvard University Press. ISBN 978-0-674-00078-0.--Moxy 🍁 21:38, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Picture Upload Issues


I have made several attempts to try and upload a picture. However, I'm having issues.. Are you able to assist? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ladym1106 (talkcontribs) 21:57, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Possibly, if you take the trouble to describe the "issues". (Spending much time guessing from no evidence what these "issues" might be? No.) -- Hoary (talk) 22:01, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Also asked on the Teahouse (and got a similar response). Ladym1106, please don't post the same question in multiple places. --ColinFine (talk) 22:11, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

You've got more responses at Wikipedia:Teahouse#Picture_Upload_Issues. Please pursue the matter there, not here. -- Hoary (talk) 23:46, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Sarah and Catherine Isabella Losh.

How do I talk to you? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Derick Quinn (talk • contribs) 23:01, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

@Derick Quinn: You can discuss edits to an article on that article's talk page. Just edit the talk page as you edited this page to ask your question. Here is the talk page: Talk:Sara Losh. You might want to make suggestions on that talk page instead of editing the article directly if you are having problems. It take a bit of practice to get ti right. Please do not get discouraged. -Arch dude (talk) 23:20, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

May 14

Change dates and some prayers time

Ramadan dates not correct because indicates one day ahead please help us and edit Some prayers time not corresponding to place of stay like me am in Uganda Kampala thus allows me to use settings and change time thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:27, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to the Help desk! If you are asking for help changing an article (e.g. Ramadan), please post your request on the article talk page (e.g. Talk:Ramadan). If your request is not about an article, could you please be more specific? Thanks! (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~.) GoingBatty (talk) 04:42, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
Bear in mind that the date will depend on the geographical location. This is clearly detailed in the infobox at Ramadan.--Shantavira|feed me 10:08, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

How to delete templates?

I am not sure how to delete templates. Can somebody help me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheRandomWikipedian (talkcontribs) 03:52, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Templates for discussion * Pppery * it has begun... 04:00, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
@TheRandomWikipedian: Which template do you want to delete and why? New users usually don't think about deleting templates as we understand it. Maybe you are thinking of another meaning like removing a template from an article. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:07, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Is it OK to copy from TALK to Article? The Rise of David Levinsky

While the author of the present article's chapters 1-9 has done what he described he'd do in Talk/2006, Chapters 10-14 are just sitting dormant, but at least some text, in TALK. Is it OK to just copy to the main article, and if so, how do you suggest crediting him? Pi314m (talk) 05:50, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Pi314m, You can simply say "Copied from talk page from user: so and and so, see talk page for attribution". Although taking a look, a chapter by chapter summary seems a bit excessive... CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n! 06:26, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
@Pi314m: Yes it's OK. Every addition to Wikipedia, to any page including talk pages, is contributed under the CC-BY-SA copyright license. It is one type of Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia, so you must say where it came from in your edit summary or on the article's talk page to comply with the "attribution" requirement of the copyright license. Of course, the stuff you move into the article must still adhere to all the same guidelines (reliable sources, BLP policy, etc.) as stuff you type in yourself. -Arch dude (talk) 16:45, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Spam filtre now blocks me from contributing to the COVID-19 article

In the last few weeks, I've tried to improve COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom, and discuss any edits which are disputed by others. There is a massive pro-England bias on this article. It ignored the fact that there are 4 governments in the UK, that B Johnson usually speaks only for England, that there are 4 NHS entities, not one, and that there are 4 Public Health bodies, one for each country. Today, I'm unable to edit ('spam filtre'); id 'discretionary sanctions' have been used by one of the editors, then I would like to know by who and why. I have 6,103 edits, and never come accross this type of behaviour before. John Jones (talk) 07:15, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Perhaps I'm missing it but I cannot locate any edits of yours that have involved a filter (not "filtre"?). See empty list. Can you see the problem anywhere such as a history or talk page? By the way, I saw this edit. It's not "bias" for that image to have a short caption saying that people were wearing masks on a certain date; it's not saying everyone was wearing them (that would be surprising). Also, "the wearing of masks were not made compulsory" is not right: it should be "was not". Johnuniq (talk) 07:43, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
I ask for help, and chastised for my spelling! Thanks Johnuniq! Talk page also inaccessible. I was able to undo one edito's contribution however. John Jones (talk) 08:55, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
You weren't chastised for your spelling: Johnuniq tactfully pointed out that your spelling was unconventional, that's all. Talk:COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom may have temporarily been inaccessible, just as any page in Wikipedia may be. However, it is not protected or semi-protected, and never has been. If you're trying to add a reference to website that's in the spam blacklist, then you won't be able to do so: that's what the spam blacklist is for. (You may of course argue that a website should not be on the spam blacklist.) -- Hoary (talk) 09:55, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
I only questioned the spelling in "('spam filtre'); id 'discretionary sanctions'" because I wasn't able to find any mention of a filter action. If you see the message again, please copy some of it to make it easier to identify what is going on. Johnuniq (talk) 10:12, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
John Jones, I see the filter that you seem to be referring to. Adding links to petition sites are generally disallowed, for everyone. See, e.g. the discussion here as to why. There doesn't seem to be anything else that would prevent you from editing. Alpha3031 (tc) 10:25, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks all. Yes, there is a ref here to the UK Government webist! It's petition . parliament.uk / petitions / 301461! Interesting that we label a UK government as 'spam'! ;') I deleted the reference, and it has worked. Thanks again! John Jones (talk) 10:35, 14 May 2020 (UTC)


how to make draft text — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chang Eugene (talk • contribs) 09:28, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Chang Eugene, see Help:Userspace draft. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:35, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
If you are trying to ask how to create a draft article, you will find advice at WP:Your first article, but you need to understand how Wikipedia works and gain experience at editing existing articles before you try to write one from square one. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:38, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

How to increase font for certain election box templates

For some reason the font/text in the “Template:Election Box” is bigger when it’s a basic template (e.g., "Election box begin"). When the template changes to "Election box begin no change" then the font/text gets smaller. Why does it get smaller? And is there any way to increase the font when using "Election box begin no change"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:98A:200:CE30:9DE2:404D:91BC:BD67 (talk) 12:35, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

HMS Maidstone

HMS maidstone — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:42, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Which one and what about her? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:46, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
If you have a comment, concern, or suggestion about an article (e.g. HMS Maidstone (1937)), you can discuss it on the article talk page (e.g. Talk:HMS Maidstone (1937)). GoingBatty (talk) 14:09, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Indian Claims Commission errors

In the 1970s I edited the publication of The Records of the Indian Claims Commission on microfiche and in two books. I worked closely with the Commission. I have not had any financial interest in the publications since 1987. The current article is horrendous--full of bizarre comments and omitting most of the actual facts. For instance: "The Indian Claims Commission was a judicial relations arbiter.... The commission was conceived as way to thank Native Americans for their unprecedented service in World War II."

What in the world is a 'judicial relations arbiter'? The Commission functioned as a court, hearing claims. The legislative history, which I also published, begins in 1929 with the introduction of the legislation in Congress.

I have prepared a completely new article that I tried unsuccessfully to post. Can you help me with this?

Extended content

The Indian Claims Commission The following article was written in 1973 by Harry E. Webb, Jr., Chief Counsel of the Indian Claims Commission (edited slightly in 2020). The Indian Claims Commission was created on August 13, 1946. Its purpose was to serve as a tribunal for the hearing and determination of claims against the United States arising prior to August 13, 1946 by any Indian tribe, band or other identifiable group of Indians living in the United States. In this it exercised jurisdiction formerly resting with the United States Court of Claims under the previous system of passing special jurisdictional acts by Congress for individual tribes. Under 28 U.S.C.A. 1/1505 the Court of Claims had jurisdiction over claims arising after August 13, 1946. Under the terms of the original Indian Claims Commission Act there were three Commissioners and a period of ten years in which to complete the work. It became obvious however, from the size and complexity of the cases, that ten years was insufficient. The Commission was extended for five-year periods in 1957 and 1962, and in 1967 it was extended a third time and enlarged to five members. Subsequently the staff was increased in size to accommodate the increased workload. The Commission was finally extended to April 10, 1977, and on that date the remaining cases were transferred to the United States Court of Claims. In creating the Indian Claims Commission, Congress broadened the jurisdictional grounds upon which Indian tribes might sue the United States. This wider jurisdiction reflected an awareness of the problems arising from the relations between the United States and the Indians who occupied the lands sought by an expanding nation. Two hundred years of westward expansion produced much conflict and created some of the harsher episodes in the history of America as the United States acquired the Indians' lands. By treaties–and after 1871 by agreements--the Indians' lands were ceded to the United States and the Indians were moved onto reservations. These cessions are the primary source of the 370 original petitions filed with the Commission prior to the cutoff date of August 13, 1951. (Under the terms of the original Act the Commission could no longer accept new claims after this date.) The 370 original petitions were separated into 611 claims, each of which was given its own docket number. The claims consisted largely of unconscionable consideration claims arising from the cession of aboriginal title lands. The Commission also received claims of uncompensated taking of land, as well as of other wrongs cognizable under the Act. (A determination of unconscionable consideration is a finding that the compensation originally paid by the Government for Indian lands ceded by treaty or agreement was so low when compared to the market value at the time as to shock the conscience and entitle the tribe to recover, subject to gratuitous offsets, if any.) The first four clauses under Section 2 of the Act cover every actionable wrong under law and equity. Clause 5 permits suits on claims based upon fair and honorable dealings that are not recognized by any existing rule of law or equity. In the trial of these cases the plaintiffs, as permitted by statute, were represented by attorneys of their own choosing under contracts approved by the Secretary of the Interior or his designated representative. The United States Government was represented by the Department of Justice. The passage of time since these claims arose in the 18th and 19th centuries created considerable difficulty in establishing the factual background of the claims. In the absence of living witnesses the parties relied upon documentary evidence consisting of available contemporary accounts, as well as historical and ethnological writings and studies. This type of evidence goes to the question of the area occupied by a tribe. This is the first, or "aboriginal title," phase of the typical land cases that were the large majority of the cases filed before the Commission. After the area was determined and the Indians' title established, it was necessary to determine the value of the land and the consideration, if any, given by the defendant (the United States), for the purpose of determining whether it was conscionable or unconscionable. In this second portion of a typical case the parties introduced land appraisal evidence for the purpose of establishing the value of the land on the date it was ceded by the tribe. The third part of the typical case is the determination of all payments made by the United States on the claim, and of any and all offsets, counterclaims and demands claimed by the defendant. Basically, this part of the case is for offsets of land or other items given the tribes by the defendant since the date on which the lands were ceded. The evidence consists of statutes or Executive Orders involving land transfers, and vouchers evidencing payment of money or goods. In many instances the Indians held their lands by recognized or reservation title confirmed by Act of Congress, or had title under an Executive Order of the President. This removes the necessity of proving title, and that step is therefore omitted from the proceedings. Included among the claims were a number of accounting cases wherein the tribes asked that the defendant account to them for its management of their assets. Owing to the nature of the cases their determination was interesting but difficult. Progress was been made, however, and more cases were completed by monetary awards in the five fiscal years since 1968 than were completed during the entire preceding life of the Commission. On this basis it is possible to foresee the completion of the remaining cases by April 10, 1977, when the Commission is scheduled to terminate.

Harry E. Webb, Jr., Chief Counsel, Indian Claims Commission Washington, D.C., April 1, 1973 [From “Index to the Decisions of the Indian Claims Commission.” See below.]

The Records of the Indian Claims Commission were published in the 1970s in a series of microfiche collections by Clearwater Publishing Company, New York, NY, under such rubrics as • The Expert Reports before the Indian Claims Commission • The Decisions of the Indian Claims Commission • Transcripts of Expert Testimony before the Indian Claims Commission • Legislative History of the Indian Claims Commission • Docket Books of the Indian Claims Commission

Altogether Clearwater published thousands of microfiches containing the legal briefs, expert testimony. findings and decisions, as well as special documents of the Commission containing their internal records, such as the Journal of the Indian Claims Commission, which recorded the receipt of every individual document deposited. All of the Commission’s documents and records were lent to Clearwater by the Commission, including on its final day in operation (in order to ensure that the microfiche edition would be complete). The microfiches of the “Decisions,” were published serially as each volume was issued (as a typescript) by the Commission, supplemented by Abstracts written by Frances L. Horn, an attorney with Wilkinson, Cragun &Barker, the firm that represented the largest number of tribes of any one firm, and which lobbied for the passage of the bill from 1929 through 1946. Clearwater also published two books as guides to the collection, “Index to the Decisions of the Indian Claims Commission,” and “Index to the Expert Reports before the Indian Claims Commission,” Norman A. Ross, president of Clearwater, was the editor of both books and the microfiche collections, the latter of which were supplemented by documents lent by Wilkinson, Cragun &Barker and several other law firms around the country that represented various tribes when copies of those documents were missing from the Commission’s own files. In addition, some documents that had been deposited by the Commission for closed cases were microfilmed for Clearwater by the National Archives. Both indexes contain a numerical list of all of the dockets as well as a tribal index, both of which were created by the Commission. The Index to the Expert Testimony contains a list of the Written Expert Reports and an author index. Although most courts do not permit written reports as evidence, the Commission ruled that all of the reports submitted by both sides had to be in writing because the contents were too complicated for oral presentation. However, both sides were permitted to cross-examine the witnesses that authored written reports. (Transcripts of the cross-examinations were also published on microfiche.) Land was the dominant concern of the litigation by tribes before the Indian Claims Commission (ICC). The statutory authority did not permit this tribunal to grant or restore land to the tribes, but only to award money based upon a net acreage figure of lost lands times the monetary market value of an acre at the time of taking. This limitation on the authority of the ICC was resented by many tribal peoples, who wanted the return of their lands more than money—e.g., the Pit River Indians of northern California, and the Teton and Lakota of the Black Hills, South Dakota. In a few instances, by way of settlement acts, tribes gained some monetary funds to buy acreage when they had no communal land (as with the Penobscot and Passamaquoddy of Maine and the Catawba of the Carolinas). Special congressional acts on occasion did restore some acreage, as with the Havasupai at the Grand Canyon.[6] Anthropologists, ethnologists, geographers, historians and specialists in such subjects as water rights, timber rights and minerals, were employed by the tribes to prove their claims. The Department of Justice defended the Government and hired other researchers in the same fields to counter the tribes’ claims. The two sides collectively spent hundreds of millions of dollars on research, resulting in the most well-funded research archive on American Indians ever created Some of the most well-known and highly regarded anthropologists of the period agreed to work for one or the other side. However, many such experts were criticized for their participation, especially those who testified on behalf of the United States, and therefore against the tribes. In preparing expert testimony for litigation brought by the tribes as plaintiffs or for the defense by the U.S. government, researchers explored all forms of data, including the earliest possible maps of original title—i.e., native or indigenous—territory and the cartographic presentations based upon treaties, statutes, and executive orders—generally identified as recognized title. In most cases, recognized title lands could be more easily demonstrated in litigation, while native territory depended upon Indian informants, explorers, trappers, military personnel, missionaries and early field ethnographers. Scholars sought to reconstruct native ecology in terms of food supply and other resources of the environment. In this way, some concept of original territory could be gained that could be mapped. As the Final Report of the ICC revealed, compromises over territorial parcels led to rejecting some acreage which had been used by more than one tribe over time.[7] The greatly expanded amount of anthropological research conducted by both sides led to the foundation of the American Society for Ethnohistory (ASE). Some of the research and historical reports compiled in evidence for Native American claims was first collected in 1954 at the inaugural Ohio Valley Historic Indian Conference, the predecessor organization later renamed the ASE. The Commission was adjourned in 1978 by Public Law 94-465,[3] which terminated the Commission and transferred its pending docket of 170 cases to the United States Court of Claims on September 30, 1978. By the time of the Commission's final report, it had awarded $818,172,606.64 in judgments and had completed 546 dockets.[4][5] In 1987 Clearwater sold its microfilms and books to Congressional Information Service (CIS) a division of Elsevier, which in turn sold its microfilm titles to ProQuest 25 years later. All of the microfiches and the two index volumes are available from ProQuest. Garland Publishing, NY, also in the 1970s, published some 200 books that contained a sampling of the written Expert Reports and reprints of some of the books submitted in evidence.

References Decisions of the Indian Claims Commission. Microfiche. --- --Index. 1. Indians of North America-Claims-Cases. I. Horn, Frances L., 1915- . II. Ross, Norman A., 1942- III. United States. Indian Claims Commission. KF8208 343'.73'025 72-13850 ISBN 0-88354-001-0

Expert Reports before the Indian Claims Commission. Microfiche. --- --Index. 1. Indians of North America-Claims-Cases. I. Ross, Norman A., 1942- II. United States. Indian Claims Commission. KF8208 343'.73'025 72-13850 ISBN 0-88354-002-0

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Norman20c (talkcontribs) 14:19, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, thank you for your attempts to improve Wikipedia. However, your edits have raised copyright concerns (among other things). Please see the page User talk:Norman20c. @Doug Weller: has detailed the issues with your edits and provided many links to help you. Best ‡ Єl Cid of Valencia talk 14:32, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
Hello Norman20c. Some of what you want may be possible, I'm ignorant of the topic. However, is any of the above copypasted from other sources? If so, it can not be included on WP but must be removed. You may be able to find interested editors here, at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United States. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:32, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
@Norman20c and Gråbergs Gråa Sång: See the right side of this page, which quotes it from: U.S. Indian Claims Commission (1973). Ross, Norman A. (ed.). Index to the Expert testimony before the Indian Claims Commission : the written reports. Clearwater Pub. Co. ISBN 9780883540022.. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 06:45, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

A part of the song (for music theory and idea illustration)

Sorry for my English. I saw some articles about songs where a short part of the song can be played. There is an article about song New Rules by Dua Lipa and there is a section Composition and release. Song is very influencive and interesting from music theory view, and three rules are in this section. There are lyrics description in this section. Can you add a short part with these lyrics to play for readers? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:41, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Doing... Juliette Han (talk) 17:46, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Music samples for more information on using music samples in articles. Apparently Juliette is adding the sample you requested, but in the future, that article could prove helpful. Cheers ‡ Єl Cid of Valencia talk 17:49, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 Done See New Rules. Juliette Han (talk) 17:59, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
@Juliette Han: FYI: I reduced the quality a bit in complying with the linked MOS. --MrClog (talk) 19:42, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

How do I make a table of contents go to a certain page?

How do I make the "0-9" section of the tables of contents at User:Jax 0677/Templates for Creation (A) go to User:Jax 0677/Templates for Creation, or a page of my choosing? Please {{ping}} me when you respond. --Jax 0677 (talk) 19:59, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

@Jax 0677: 0-9=[[User:Jax 0677/Templates for Creation|0–9]] with a normal hyphen in the parameter name 0-9, not an en dash. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:02, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

BLP in cases of "ruled dead in absentia"

Does WP:BLP apply to an article if the subject is a missing person who has been declared dead in absentia by a U.S. court judgment? This question has cropped up with the newly-created article Kim Dong-shik. Muzilon (talk) 20:08, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

@Muzilon: the first footnote on the WP:BLP page says: People are presumed to be living unless there is reason to believe otherwise. This policy does not apply to people declared dead in absentia. Therefore I would assume that with the article you're referring to, the BLP policy doesn't apply.  Seagull123  Φ  23:40, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks. Pinging RetroCraft314, for the record. Muzilon (talk) 04:39, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

kukri or khukuri

The kukri or khukuri (Nepali: खुकुरी khukuri) is a knife, originating from the Indian subcontinent, associated with the Nepali speaking Gurkhas of Nepal and India.

this sentence is not correct as it didnt originate from an indian subcontinent. It came to view of the nation from gurkha an nepali state at the pre war ages. The gurkhas were also orginated from there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:51, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

If you have a suggestion for the article Kukri, please make it within the article's talk page: Talk:Kukri. -- Hoary (talk) 22:01, 14 May 2020 (UTC), the Indian subcontinent is defined geographically, not according to current (or past) political boundaries. The area of the (current) country Nepal is, by definition, part of the Indian subcontinent, which is often referred to just as "the Subcontinent" to avoid such geopolitical confusions. {The poster formerly known as} (talk) 20:58, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Added info re sexual orientation ... it was deleted.

The reasoning was irrational. This information adds to our knowledge of a key individual in our virus response. Hiding this information is detrimental to our understanding of this serious current issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:03, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

The main reason it was removed is because it was an unsourced addition to a biography of a living person; see the BLP policy. I also don't see how his being gay is pertinent to his work, but in any event, if it is to be included, it needs to be sourced to a reliable source. 331dot (talk) 23:08, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
Temporary page protection requested. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 23:19, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
I've given it a month-long partial immunity to the obsessions of anonymous contributors to Wikipedia. -- Hoary (talk) 23:38, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

May 15

Xtools - external links

I'm curious - what does the "external links" number refer to on xtools? It's not the number of references included in an article, nor is it the number of wikilinks included in an article, as those are both given as separate numbers. --Jpcase (talk) 01:38, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

@Jpcase: External links (e.g. [https://example.com Example])? —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 06:51, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
@Jpcase: Please include a link when you refer to something. There are 13 XTools at https://xtools.wmflabs.org/. I guess you mean Page History, linked on "Page statistics" in Wikipedia page histories. External links is about Help:Link#External links but I'm not sure precisely what is included in the count. I tried some small random examples and it didn't always match my own count. For example, I see 5 on Jardin des Plantes Sauvages du Conservatoire botanique national de Bailleul, including the coordinates at the top right. Page History says 6. Special:ExpandTemplates shows a total of 9 links with external link syntax are produced in the wikitext: The 5 I see and 4 going to //en.wikipedia.org. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:27, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
@PrimeHunter: Sorry for not specifying - I'm not really familiar with XTools, so I didn't realize that would be any ambiguity when referring to it. Yes, I'm referring to the "Page statistics" that you can navigate to through any Wikipedia article's "view history" tab. Once you go to "Page statistics", under the "General statistics" heading, in the second row, there are three subheadings: Edits, Links, and Prose. The fourth number given under "Links" is for "External links". I'm familiar with the concept of external links on Wikipedia, but as you've pointed out, the number of external links counted by XTools doesn't always seem to match up with the actual number of external links that can be found in the article.
I'm guessing that for the article you linked, maybe the sixth external link is the one pointing to the French Wikipedia? Do interlanguage wikilinks count as external links? Even if that's the case though, I've seen the XTools external links count seemingly fail to match with the actual number of external links found in some articles that have no interlanguage wikilinks, so I'm still confused about what Xtools does and doesn't count as an external link Actually, right before publishing this comment, I figured it out.
The external links counted by xTools seems to include all unique urls pointing to a website other than Wikipedia...or at least, other than the English Wikipedia, if the interlanguage wikilinks are also counted. So the number of external links counted by Xtools includes all references with unique urls, regardless of whether the references are formatted in the [https://example.com Example] style mentioned above by AlanM1 or in the ((cite web |url= style. If two separate references have the exact same url (which might happen if say, different time stamps in the same video or podcast are cited as separate references) then those references are counted as one external link. As an example, if the only external links included in an article are references, and if that article has ten references, but two of those references share the exact same url, then only nine external links will be counted for that article.
Of course, references aren't the only types of external links that can be found on a page. Anything included in the "External links" section of an article will be counted. Further, external links in an article could include those coordinates you mentioned or links included as part of Authority control. Thanks for helping me piece this together! :) --Jpcase (talk) 15:19, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input

The article is Fred Lorenzen. I made two corrections. One was published but has a red cite error message on it. I cant get the site message to disappear although the correction has been made. The second is a correction in the same section under final win. It lists the American 500 which is incorrect. It should read Daytona qualifier 1967. That information only appears when the year 1967 is highlighted, but it does not replace the existing misinformation. American 500 Martinsville. your help is appreciated. Steve SamplesSJS28 (talk) 02:04, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

@SJS28: I appreciate your good faith attempt to improve the Fred Lorenzen article, but your edits were technically incorrect, so I have reverted them. I suggest you post on the article's talk page - Talk:Fred Lorenzen - to discuss your suggestions with other knowledgeable editors. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 02:27, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Draft disappeared

I created an account with the user name Lipav123. I started to create a draft through the article wizard for the article named Anthony Radetic. I created text and an inbox. I cannot find the draft anywhere. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lipav123 (talkcontribs) 02:37, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

You may have done so, but if you did then you didn't save it. Your contributions history shows no such draft. No "Draft:Anthony Radetic" has ever existed. -- Hoary (talk) 02:51, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

RE: Four Star Mary


Hello, I'm Mr.Sarcastic. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Four Star Mary, but you didn't provide a source. I’ve removed it for now, but if you’d like to include a citation to a reliable source and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Mr.Sarcastic (talk) 10:51, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

I do not have a link to 'prove' that Four Star Mary performed a gig with James Marsters in a London bar in April 2001 (plus many other venues). I actually attended the gig + met the band!

I would like to point out that where it states "In 2008, the band made a number of appearances in the UK, finishing in Manchester.[citation needed]" - there's no source noted either, so why is that allowed to remain? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 07:10, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

(i) Pinging Mr.Sarcastic. (ii) Like it or not, the burden of providing evidence for assertions that you add to an article is on you: WP:BURDEN. There are various things that I know for sure that I could add to WP articles, and one or two of them contradict myths that are repeated in one "reliable source" after another. But this knowledge of mine is given the flattering name "original research", and WP is not for my original research, or yours, even though we both know we are right: WP:NOR. (iii) It was worse than you may realize. That assertion about a number of appearances in the UK had been flagged as needing a reference since 2014. A few minutes ago, I deleted it, very belatedly. -- Hoary (talk) 09:10, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
(edit conflict) We cannot accept your personal word for information, as that is impossible to independently verify. Information that is not sourced to a reliable source cannot be in the article. If there is other information that is unsourced, you are welcome to remove it. As this is a volunteer project where people do what they can when they can, we can only act on what we know about, and rely on others to help detect inappropriate edits. As the information you speak of was tagged with a citation needed tag, it is possible someone thought it was at least possible it could be cited. 331dot (talk) 09:12, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
Pinging again Mr.Sarcastic for you Hoary :)--Pierpao (talk) 11:00, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
@Hoary: I totally agree with you. Any piece of information must be properly sourced with reliable source. Also if they believe that the information cannot be cited at the moment then citation needed tag can be used for a short period of time and if in that given time the editor cannot provide any sources for that information then the whole unsourced information can be removed from the article. It is the sole responsibility of the editor who add the information to the article to provide sources for their claim. Thanks Mr.Sarcastic (talk) 11:14, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Meaning of a notification

I had created a few articles (one of them is Nokia 5.3) in March, and today I got a message saying "The page Nokia 5.3 has been reviewed" (it was reviewed by SD0001). I couldn’t find anything about article reviewing after the article has been created, and this article was reviewed as a draft and added to Wikipedia back in March. Could someone explain what is the significance of these post-creation reviews?
RedBulbBlueBlood9911 (talk) 13:04, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

@RedBulbBlueBlood9911: See Wikipedia:New pages patrol and Wikipedia:Page Curation. It basically means a reviewer checked a new page and saw no serious problems which require action now. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:22, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
One significance of the review process is that a new article is WP:NOINDEXed (and hence not found by Google and other such search engines) until it has been reviewed or 90 days has passed. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:09, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
The gap between publication and review unfortunately just reflects the growing NPP backlog (which today went back over the 10,000 mark for the first time in a while...). I miss Onel5969... GirthSummit (blether) 14:49, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks to all who responded. I tried looking for pages regarding page review, and came here after finding nothing relevant. But it turned out that my article was in my watchlist and there was a link to Page Curation (which I didn’t see till afterwards). RedBulbBlueBlood9911 (talk) 16:23, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Kayvan Khalatbari - How can I resolve the alert at the top of his page?

Hello Wikipedia,

Khalatbari's page has an alert posted at the top drawing into question my relationship to Khalatbari and who paid me to edit his page. I posted a paid editor disclosure on his talk page on 15 April [1], but the alert is still posted at the top of his page. My only relationship with Khalatbari is through this project to update his Wiki and there is no conflict of interest. I haven't even met him in person. In addition to this purely professional and Wikipedia-based relationship, so many revisions have been made to the page since I finished my work that it hardly looks like I had anything to do with it. Unless these other contributions are also in question, I see no reason for there to be any concern about the accuracy or legitimacy of Khalatabari's Wiki.

What else can I do to resolve this?

Thank you so much for your help, HilaryConstable (talk) 15:04, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

The template does not just relate to your edits, the article has a long history of undisclosed paid editing. Theroadislong (talk) 15:34, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Bing Liu (scientist)

Can an assistant professor suddenly qualify for his own Wikpedia article solely because he was a murder victim? It looks like someone made an article about this guy a few days after the crime. 2605:A000:FFC0:D8:90F1:A4A5:A9B:BF9C (talk) 16:17, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

For Wikipedia's guideline, see Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Crime victims and perpetrators. GoingBatty (talk) 16:22, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
I read that. My interpretation as it applies to this particular article is no. What's yours? 2605:A000:FFC0:D8:90F1:A4A5:A9B:BF9C (talk) 16:39, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
I agree with you. GoingBatty (talk) 22:56, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Mobile version v. desktop

I'm sure I saw something that showed the numbers of people viewing the mobile version of Wikipedia as opposed to the desktop version. Any ideas where it is? Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 16:53, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

See for example [1]. See [2] for individual pages. You can select "Platform" to the left. See Wikipedia:Pageview statistics for various page view links. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:38, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks. It was the first link I was looking for. I see that the app views are still low that it's not much of a problem yet. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 16:15, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Is it safe to ask a question in users talk page?

I want to post a question in somebody's talk page if my question at help desk ignored. Is that safe way to ask? Ram nareshji (talk) 19:02, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

@Ram nareshji: It is acceptable to ask questions of another user at their talk page with the proviso that the question must be related to Wikipedia (obviously) and you should be civil and respectful. It is not good practice to ask similar questions in multiple locations and it is quite unusual for requests at this help desk to go unanswered. Those who respond here are all volunteers (the same as you) and often subject to time constraints; might need a little patience.. I cannot comment on other locations where help is offered; the teahouse etc. I note you have made several enquiries at the reference desk/computing. Eagleash (talk) 19:21, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

I note you have made several enquiries at the reference desk/computing. Should I delete it? Is that wrong? Ram nareshji (talk) 19:24, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

@Ram nareshji: No, that is not necessary. RudolfRed (talk) 01:49, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Cylindrical equal-area projection

I tried to post, to Cylindrical Equal Area Projection, an added article-section.

I wrote the article-section in WordPad. To preserve the paragraphs when the document is copied & pasted into an edit-space, it's necessary to write a period (".")at the beginning of each otherwise blank inter-paragraph-space. But that didn't work when I pasted the article into the WP edit-space.

So I added html paragraph-tags, and that was working, but when I made what would have been my final publish of the edit, a pop-up announced that an automated filter had determined that my edit was unconstructive or disruptive.

Was that because of the html paragraph-tags?

...or because I'd made successive uses of the "Publish" button, while fixing the edit

...when I should have instead used "Preview" until I got it right?

My two questions:

1. What did I do that caused the automated filter to judge my edit to be unconstructive or disruptive?

2. How should I ensure that my edit has the intended paragraph spacings (blank-lines)? Should I use the paragraph html-tags,or is that discouraged, and is there a better way to have paragraph-spacings?

Michael Ossipoff71.84.140.85 (talk) 19:54, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Make a blank line to start a new paragraph. If you cannot do that with Wordpad then do it another way before saving. The automated filter was a "random" match of something intended to stop other things. Blank lines would have been accepted by the filter. Your original saved edit had many problems, including being unsourced and giving your name in the article. Wikipedia editors are only credited by listing their username or IP address in the page history. You can discuss the article at Talk:Cylindrical equal-area projection where an editor has stated several reasons for reverting you. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:29, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

This is a paragraph.

This is a new paragraph.

This is the third paragraph. Note the blank lines in between. With regard to the reversion of your edit, visit the pages linked to by the blue-linked words starting with "WP:" in the reverting editor's response to you at Talk:Cylindrical equal-area projection#My edit has been reverted. I've also left more general information about Wikipedia and its purpose at User talk:!. I hope this helps. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 08:20, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

May 16

how is it you can get focus 1 for pyra

how is it you can get focus 1 for pyra — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:CD50:AFD0:81C6:F094:9098:FBC4 (talk) 12:03, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

"This page is only for questions about using Wikipedia, not for general knowledge questions." -- Hoary (talk) 12:38, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Is there a way to recover access to an old account?

Good day. I have been using this account for exactly six years now. Prior to this, I have used an account named User:Johnwilmer14 which I created in 2013. I want to recover my access to it. However, I no longer remember the password and email (if there's one) I have set back then. Is there any workaround for this? Thanks. —Hiwilms (talk) 16:29, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

@Hiwilms: User:Johnwilmer14 has not set an email address. If you don't remember the password then you cannot recover access to the account. Passwords never expire. Special:CentralAuth/Johnwilmer14 only shows 19 Wikimedia edits in total. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:43, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
@Hiwilms: this page might be of some help, Help:Logging in#Login issues and problems, especially this section of the page about forgotten passwords. If you want help resetting the password, look here. Hope this helps.  Seagull123  Φ  16:47, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
I actually wanted to request for the deletion of the user page since it contains a more specific information on my location. I also want to put a "retired" template on that old user page since I'm no longer using it. Is it possible? —Hiwilms (talk) 16:57, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Khukri = Khukuri

How could Wikipedia make such a stupid mistake we Nepalese are not a navigator of Gurkhas we are Gurkhas Nepalese Nepal is Gurkha and we are gurkhas. How and when indian involved in Gurkhas. Khukuri not khukri Khukuri is our only one and national weapon belongs to Nepalese originated at Nepal . Originated before the origination of India how could you publish such a rubbish article to the user . I was expecting the truth news from wikipedia . When i saw this article in wikipedia my blood is boiling . You should correct this article related khukuri. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dipesh977Nepal (talkcontribs) 17:00, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

As noted at Talk:Kukri - we use the WP:COMMONNAME in English, which is Kukri, and it is not specific to Nepal, hence the use of Indian subcontinent; an article which you have just vandalized. We also know this is the subject of off-site canvassing, which. presumably is why you are here - Arjayay (talk) 17:15, 16 May 2020 (UTC)


Wikipedia is great but Wikipedia is going to end. will you help me get Wikipedia back thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ax09tongo67 (talk • contribs) 18:04, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

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